Welcome to AP United States History 2008-2009 !!!!! Please answer the question during the week of September 2. Then make at least one response to one of your classmates. Who do you support in the 2008 Presidential election and why? Be sure to give at least 2 details of support based on important campaign issues.
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I strongly support the Democrats. Sometimes I think that the Republicans want to impose their values on to other people. I feel that Barack Obama will improve the economy much better than John McCain. His running mate Joe Biden has so much experience.
I support John McCain. Obama wants to raise taxes, to help our economy, but John McCain will lower taxes, which will give the average American more spending money, which will improve the economy. I can tell by what he says that Obama wants to become president for his own power and recognition, but John McCain wants to serve his country, like he did in Vietnam.
In response to Maria, I don't think that Obama will improve the economy. His plan is to raise taxes on the average family. That will give them less money to spend, and the economy will go down. Especially with the high gas prices, I don't see how taking more money out of our pockets will help the economy.
jenna, obama wants to raise taxes for the RICH people. people who actually have the money to waste away. hes not raising taxes for the middle and lower class people. Obama doesnt want to be president for his own recognition he actually wants to help our ecomomy. republicans want tax breaks for the big businesses. but the democrats are the peoples people. they want better lives for the people who pretty much live paycheck
to paycheck.
I want John McCain to win the presidency. We cannot afford socialism, moral decay and globalism in this dangerous time. Also, McCain has been in the military, and Obama has never served. I think if you're going to be the commander in chief of our armed forces, then you need to have had experience serving. There are many other reasons why I want McCain to win, I'm not all excited about McCain; it's a "lesser of two evils" scenario for me.
I have to agree with Dahlke, Obama will destroy the economy. There is so much inflation going on right now that taking more money from people isn't going to help, it's going to do the exact opposite, i don't know about you but i don't feel like living through a depression. Obama is super inexperienced and has no clue what he will do if he becomes president. "Hope" isn't a plan.
I strongly support Obama. His tax plan is to take from the rich who have enough money anyway. I agree with Democrat morals and I really don't like how Republicans seem to force their beliefs onto others. I thought we were a free country. His stances on health care and gay marriage are also a plus. Not only all of this, but he just seems so "real". I really can't explain it. He just has a vibe.
In response to Maria, I have to agree that the Republicans force their values onto others. I sometimes feel as though to be a Republican, I must be "worthy". I just think everyone should be able to make their own decisions.
I, for one, am a big John McCain supporter. The one thing that keeps coming to the top of my mind is that our president should come off to the rest of the world as someone tough, who isn't afraid to do what it takes to get a job done. Society has gotten soft, and getting both your legs broken while rats eat at your feet in some Vietnamese war prison and still having the will to survive and being totally loyal to the country that put you in that situation...that to me shows toughness. War is war, and you have to do what you have to do. John McCain knows that from first hand experience. Maybe if more of the public would support foreign wars instead of protesting them we would actually win one and get something accomplished. Obama can fix the middle class all he wants, but if we get attacked by some foreign country and Obama is sitting in the Oval Office with his head between his knees because he doesnt know what to do...well then suddenly being an influential speeker with a nice smile doesn't mean so much, does it?
I support Barack Obama. He has a plan in which he will provide tax cuts to working families and raise taxes on the upper class, who have enough already. Obama also intends to pull our troops out of Iraq. So far, we have spent over 550 billion dollars. Not only is it increasing out debt, but has also weakened the US dollar some 30% against the euro.
Suitandtieguy, I agree that we shouldn't "baby" people necessarily, that they have to make their own choices and we can't do it for them. However, many people do need our help. For the millions of homeless or jobless people, we can't expect them to just find jobs, when they don't have the experience or qualifications necessary. Not only that, but there are countless working families that still are unable to make ends meet. So if you want to continue making the rich richer and increasing the number of people living in poverty or barely getting by, then go ahead.
I'm for Obama. He's strong, and is for our country. McCain supports our country too, but he just doesn't understand all the time. McCain is with Bush nearly 90% of the time, and is for the Iraq war! When it comes to the Iraq war, McCain is all talk and bad strategy. He's one tire short of a car if you ask me. For those of you that think Obama raising taxes will hurt us significantly, well your misguided. Here's an example; when gas prices went up, not everyone stopped driving! People adapted to the change and went on with their lives. So if taxes go up, we just adapt and live with it.
i would have to be for the republicans this time. i like mcain's idea of cutting useless programs. i dont know about the rest of you, but i have herd that this nation is, what, billions of dollars in debt? i am not solely for one party like some of you may be, so if one of you obama supporters could please explain to me how adding programs will help our economy, please do so.
I agree with 1234 and I support Obama and his plan to decrease working families taxes and increase taxes to the upperclass
I support John McCain. This man has much more expierence with government and military than Obama. McCain's promise to lower taxes will better our economy and bring success to America's future. I also follow the Bible, and McCain's views on values agree with what the Bible tells us. Due to expierence in every way, John McCain NEEDS to be the next president of the United States.
I strongly disagree with stephan colbert. Your resoning as far as the Iraq war and taxes is way off base. Did you know that many more people die in our country every day from violent crimes than in the war. Everyone is worried of all those dieing in the war when they are clueless of those dieing in our country. Many are clueless of those dieing in our country due to the fact that a considerable amount of the news reports are from a liberal stand point and they try to show how bad the war is not recognizing what the reality of war is. Look at the wars in our history and the iraq casulties is nothing. THe news knows that if they emphasize the deaths in the war, they will win the popularity of the people and the people in turn will support the democratic party because they support the ending of the war. As far as the taxes go, raising taxes will NEVER help our economy. After so long, you cannot adapt. If gas prices were a dollar or two higher, I guarentee people would quit driving because their whole pay check would be on gas. Not to mention with gas up, food goes up as well. This is another reason why supporting John McCain in this election is very important and crucial to the future of the American success.
I am undecided in the 2008 election. However, I have checked out McCain and Obama's website and both have the same thing in common for Washington - Change. The big issues for me at the moment are: economy, foregin oil, health care, and foreigin policy. Both candidates stands on these issues have diffrent pro's and con's. I belive the deciding factor for me will be a presidential debate, where I can get a live comparison and reaction to the candidates stance on the issues.
In response to 'suitandtieguy'... I belive military experience allows one to have leadership and values that no civillian could have. On the other hand, growing up with one parent, and not having much money allowed Barack to develop values in a different way. That shows a different type of leadership that no millitary experience could give. --- Im sure we will see plenty of commercials dealing with military smart vs. street smart
I support Barack Obama in the 2008 election. I believe he has a good plan on bringing back the middle class since so many of them are going into poverty. Raising taxes for the upper class is actually a really good idea. I think it will help the poverty rate go way down. I mean what are a lot of rich people buying now a days anyways? Definitly things that arent helping the poor people of this country. Sure, its helping the economy but it isnt helping what really matters right now. Obama wants to help the people of his country and thats what type of president we need for this country.
I definitly disagree with suitandtieguy. Just because John McCain was there at war first hand and was tough and survived, doesnt mean he'd be great for president. It also doesnt mean he knows how to handle war either. He should know FIRST HAND that war is terrible, especially with his FIRST HAND experiences there. We obviously arent getting the job done in Iraq so why stay there and make more soldiers in Iraq go through the experiences McCain had to go through and have nothing get accomplished. I believe Obama will get the war ended the right way in quick timing.
In response to my response from father of common sense: People are more concerned with the war in Iraq because its people we know that we sent there. In these violent crimes, it's all sudden and death is quick to occur. In the war we know who's in there. As for your other response to the gas prices, your misguided. Gas did go up a dollar or two, give or take since it went up, and we still drive. Not everyone quit driving, I guarantee it! Look at how many people drive to school now, look at busy interstates and highways, and look at your parent(s)/guardian(s). Did their entire paycheck go towards gas recently, I think not! Not many or none at all need to spend their whole paycheck on gas just because it went up. You did bring up food prices going up too. It did indeed, but we just adapted and adjusted to that increase in our economy. You still eat don't you? Well I think I've proven my points more clearly this time around. Obama:) McCain:(
I support John McCain. He wants to lower taxes for the middle class people so they have more money. John McCain also has military experience so he would be able to lead our country in the war on Terrorism. He would also be able to find a good way out instead of just taking all the troops out right away.
I disagree with Colbert. You saying that the Iraq war is a bad thing is wrong. We have to do something to keep our country safe. I also disagree with you saying taxes going up won't affect us, because it will. If taxes do go up then people will have to deal with high gas prices and high taxes.
In the 2008 election I am undecided. I usually support the Republican party, but i have never been in support of Bush. Not to long ago I learned that 90% of the time John McCain votes the same with Bush and for me that is just WAY to much! Also John McCain owns over eight homes and in the past he has said that if you make under 5 million dollars in a year you are considered middle class. This means that most of us who are at middle class would be considered at the poverty level.
Suitandtieguy I agree with you, when it comes to having a president we need someone with military experience. Obama has no experience when it comes to war and that could mean destruction for the United States. We're in a war so the protesting that these people are doing is not going to help. We need to do what we went in their for.
Well jd, I never said that the war was necessarily a bad thing, I just made a comment about McCain, that's all. Also people have already dealt with gas prices and taxes before, and just recently gas prices going up, but it doesn't mean the world is going to stop. Just for the record, I never said taxes going up wouldn't affect us, I said we would adapt and adjust to the change. When gas prices, or taxes go up, people have to make changes on what they spend. So if gas prices go up, maybe you can't go out to eat as much, etc...
you know, "barack obama" (great name, by the way. I TOTALLY couldnt have thought of anything more creative) it is people like you that are losing the war for america. Like i said before, if people dont support the war, nothing is going to be accomplished. If Obama does "get the war ended the right way in quick timing", what does that tell the rest of the world? Do you WANT everyone to think that we start stuff that we cant finish? Also, have you noticed that since people got into the "War is BAAAD!!" mentality and we LOST in Vietnam because NOBODY SUPPORTED THE WAR, we, as a country have been getting messed with quite a bit more? WWII set us up as a military power and sent the message that we could beat anyone that messed with us to a pulp. Maybe if people like you would get real and realize that war is just a result of having 5 billion people with different values on this planet, the rest of the world would respect us and not want to start anything. So basically yea, we have to WIN at war to prevent it in the future. Also, i dont know how you can say that the economy "doesnt matter right now". That is possibly the most errogent thing i have heard in quite a while. If i were you, i would watch CNN for longer than 3 minutes before deciding what does and doesnt matter.
I support John McCain in this election. Not because I like him, but because I think he is the lesser of two evils. McCain grew up in the United States, served in the military, and has tons more experience.
Obama was born in Honolulu. At the age of two, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya, and his mother married an Indonesian student. Obama moved to Indonesia with his mother and step-father, where he was enrolled in a Madrassa that taught the Wahhabi doctrine(Teaches the denial of rights to non-muslims). At the age of 10, he moved in with his grandparents. He tends to be vague, and evasive when the first 10 years of his life come up.
That is why I am leery of Obama. Frankly, his background scares me a little.
Alright, this one is in response mostly to Redlife, and Diane Nash.
First of all, you guys support Obama's taxes on the rich. Why should they be punished for having money? This is NOT a socialist society.
Also, redlife, you say there's something "real" about Obama? Are you kidding me? That guy is scary. He attended a Madrassa, which he actually never admits(he calls it a "predominately muslim school". Obama has never served in the military, he had 200 some DAYS of experience in the senate before he ran, and quite a few times while he was in the illinois senate he voted "present" instead of taking a stand on important issues.
in response to father of common sense, yes you have created a point on violence killing more people than war. but if we stop the war, that's how many less people that die? its not okay that we're in Iraq, spending all of this money, when we can be putting it towards better uses. such as builing more homes for the homeless, helping eliminate starvation. Bush doesn't seem to care about our people all that much. Yes McCain has been in the war, yes he MAY be a good leader, but just because Obama hasn't served in the war doesn't mean he wont be a great leader. McCain is with Bush. It doesnt seem like Bush is helping our country all that much, and if McCain comes into power, its going to be as if Bush never left the office. things are going to be just as bad as they are, nothing is going to change. I believe that Obama will help our country. He doesn't approve of the war. I think thats great. Does anyone even remember why we went there in the first place? Neuclear bombs or whatever? now we're there for oil? if we go into war why dont we stick to why we went there in the first place and not change our reasoing for being there???
this is in response to skeptical
I do support Obama raising taxes for the rich, they have more money to spend. why should the middle class people have to spend all of their money on taxes, when the rich just get to sit back and relax and not have to worry about paying as high taxes as the middle class does. put it this way. What if your parents lived paycheck to paycheck and could BARELY afford other things maybe something special that you wanted. but because of McCain wanting to raise taxes for the lower and middle class you couldnt get anything, and your family, maybe went into poverty. how would that feel? but what Obama raising taxes for the people who actually have the money, your family wont be burdened with having to watch every single cent they have because of higher taxes.
diane, what i meant about taxation is that it should be the same percentage for everyone. Joe makes $10,000 a year, and income tax is, say, 26% he should have to pay $2,600. John makes $100,000 a year, you would pay $26,000. It would be unfair to say that, because John makes a $100,000 dollars a year, he should have to pay 60% income tax so he can help Joe pay his bills.
We are NOT a socialist society. Maybe Joe should look into getting either a better job, or taking a second job. Maybe Joe should save up money to go to college so he can get a better job and make $100,000 a year like John does. But John should NOT have to pay Joe's bills because he doesn't have any money.
I support John McCain in this election. He has had a lot of experience being in war, which I think is a good thing for a president to have since he's in charge of the armed forces. I also like that his plan is to lower taxes for everyone. I think that this will improve the economy. Plus, from watching him speak and stuff he just seems like he relates to his fellow Americans. I think he would make a good president.
In response to what Diane Nash said, I don't think taxes should be raised for the upper-class people. This country is supposed to be equal, so why should their taxes be raised just because they have more money, when nobody else's taxes are raised? I mean, aren't they already higher than everybody else's to begin with? I just don't think that's really fair to them.
skeptical, what if joe cant get a better job? then its not really his fault. maybe the requirements he needs for the job, he does not have. and what if he cant pay for college. what is he supposed to do???
and i get what you and carmen are saying. but why should just the lower and middle class pay for taxes? and not the upper class? thats unfair. i agree that the lower and middle should have to pay taxes, just not as much. why should the lower and middle class have to spend almost all of their money on taxes when its just like pocket change to the upper class? does that sound fair. does that sound equal carmen??
diane nash, America is a place where you can be anything you want to be. IF YOU TAKE THE INCENTIVE TO DO IT. Maybe if joe would have put down the bong for 5 minutes and took some of the money he spent on weed and put it towards college, then HE could be upper class and have "pocket change" to spend on taxes. Why should people that have made good choices in life, and taken the incentive to succede so they dont have as many problems, have to pay, literally, for every mother that had a crack baby at the age of 15? Heck, maybe if we would help them EVEN LESS than we are now, people would see how bad it is, and try harder to succede. Some people see how soft the system and take advantage of it. You make your own choices in life. Deal with them. Its people like you that give money to homeless people becaue "you feel bad for them and think they deserve a second chance.", and they just go buy a 40 of Old English. Well, sometimes you dont get a re-play.
diane,
There is ALWAYS an opportunity for a better job, this is America. Especially now, there are plenty of jobs available. I just got a job that pays $8+ an hour, if i were to work 40 hours a week, that would be 1280 a month. At 26% income tax...figure $947. For $500 a month you can get a pretty decent appartment with utilities included. That's $447/month left, if you figure $40 a month to ride the city bus, $407 left.
I think even with other various expenses that's plenty to live on. Joe needs to watch his spending, and put some of that money in a savings account.
suitandtieguy...
fyi:
arrogant..
A-R-R-O-G-A-N-T.
Well here's something to think about; when life gives you lemons you make lemonade! Not complain about it and whine. So gas prices went up, and taxes may go up as well, oh well! You've just gotten a heap full of lemons and now you are going to make lots of lemonade. This was my point earlier; yes things like this increase, but we as a country adapt and adjust to what's dealt to us in this deck of cards we call life. Aren't analogies fun?!?! It's Indecision '08 people! :D
real sweet, barack obama, lets just get pissed and point out spelling mistakes. The real Obama better proof read everything, otherwise his supporters might riot. Wait...no they wouldnt, because theyre too liberal and would rather be out inhaling their own bowel movements.
I support Barack Obama. His plan is to get our soldiers out of Iraq as soon as possible which i agree with becuase i feel that we have been there too long and not much is being accomplished. Of course we have helped the Iraqis rebuild their government and military and those type of things, but i think that it's time to get out of there. He also wants to reduce the amount of tax cuts for the wealthy people, and lower taxes for the average and poor families which i agree with. He just has a very Pro-change attitude about him.
I agree with redlife. Republicans do seem to force their beliefs on some people, and Obama does have a good plan having to do with taxes. I definetely agree that he seems extremely "real" too.
Okay is there something completely horrible about Muslims that I am missing? I accept other religions. Not every muslim is a terrorist. And I know you wont believe me, because it is shocking how many have succombed to the rumor of this whole "Madrassa" thing, but it is NOT true. It really is completely false. I don't know how I can make you believe that and I bet some of you will get all righteous, but it is just a rumor. My family is very into politics. We get all the newspapers, watch all the news and shows like the Colbert Report. It's not real. I understand if you still believe it though, some people have a hard time accepting the fact that they are wrong. I used to be like that myself. McCain does have military experience, I will give him that, but I just do not like war. Call me naive, but maybe things can be settled in a different way. In response to skeptical, why does the fact that Obama has a cultural background scare you? Oh, and suitandtieguy, not every liberal has a bong or smokes weed. Please do not stereotype. Just because someone lives in poverty does not mean they are or were a pothead. Just like the fact that not every rich person worked hard for their money. Ever heard of an heiress? Maybe the lottery?
At this moment and time, I am currently undecided on who i support for this upcoming election. Each candidate has their strengths and flaws.
Starting off with McCain, I support his idea of drilling for oil more rapidly in America to fuel the economy in the present. But, he wants to start simultaneously develop alternative energy sources like geothermal hydroelectric and solar powers. On the other hand Obama wants to start going "green" right now but the problem with that is, it is going to take time to develop the alternative energy infrastructure. The time that it takes to develop that McCain wants to keep drilling oil while Obama wants to cut it off completely.
What i am strongly in favor for on Obama's account is the fact that he is all for public education. America is the ONLY country in the world that has free public education through high School. McCain believes that education should be privatized. Now can i ask you this? How could u honestly want children walking around with no education because we decided it should unreasonably priced to archive a high school diploma. I think that every child deserves the right to learn no matter what their family budget is.
I support John McCain in the upcoming election. I agree with John McCain's position on the War in Iraq. The time, resources, and and most importantly the loss of our fellow Americans would be in vain if we abandon the mission before accomplishing our goals. I agree with McCain that we should not withdraw troops until the government of Iraq and the soldiers there can safeguard the country. On a much larger level I feel McCain has the necessary experience, leadership, and vision to guide the country and our nation's defenses in this ever dangerous and changing world.
I disagree with you Stephen Colbert. You said in one of your comments that the government can do whatever, for example raise taxes, and that we should just learn to "adapt and live with it." So your saying that the government should tax us as much as they want and we'll learn to adapt to it? I disagree. You also said John McCain has a bad strategy for the Iraq war. What is Barack Obama's strategy? Withdraw troops and then what? Who picks up the pieces when Iraq and the Middle East are in a mess?
Well I disagree with you hair on fire?. I did mention about taxes, and the gov't, but think realistically. Is the gov't really going to tax us as much as they want and we adapt to it? No, because that would hurt the entire economy, rich, poor, or in the middle, no one would have much money anymore. That'd we stupid on the gov'ts part. As for the war in Iraq, I did say McCain has a bad strategy, but I never said anything about Obama. Another thing is that Bush is still our president calling shots about the war in Iraq. Though I do have to say, when it comes to a war, it's hard to call the shots. McCain is misguided in the war, Obama may not know exactly what he's doing, and Bush is doing what he's doing right now for he war. War can be a difficult thing, so I think that's one topic and candidate is going to have trouble with.
suitandtieguy, Is all you want in a president is "toughness." I agree with you that the war needs to stop, but i think it could be worked out a different way then violence. Obama has a less violent way to end the war. Oh and "Society has gotten soft" if I can remember correctly a certain football coach likes say that.
Like skeptical, I support John McCain not just because I like his views, but because I dislike Barack Obama views more. One reason I like John McCain is that he will reduce taxes. I also like that he wants to use Americas own oil. I feel we should use the oil we have to reduce money going to the middle east. I also like McCain because he knows what war is like. I know that between John and Barack, John will make a smarter and more realistic plain for the War on Iraq. Now things that I dislike about Barack Obama. One, he's has no leadership exp. All he did was vote yes or no for 8 years in the Senate. Two, he doesn't believe law-abiding citizens should own guns for self defense "by the way thats what Germany did just before Hitler took over". Three, he doesn't put his hand over his heart for the pledge of allegiance. Four, he supports more entitlement programs by increasing taxes.
Hey man, (pink smoochy) i use the resources i have to make a point, and if i want to quote steff, oh well. haha. WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?!?! (this is Matt Johns, btw, so anyone who wants to yell at me tomorrow for being A-R-R-O-G-A-N-T can go ahead, im sure we'll just laugh about it anyways.)Thats what happens to me when people make me "blog"...
Alright, redlife, I stand corrected on the whole madrassa thing. He doesn't scare me as much anymore :-P, he has said some questionable things, but so has McCain I guess.
I am going to throw some statistics at you though:
McCain has 26 years experience in congress, and 22 in the military.
Obama has 143 days experience in congress, and 0 military experience.
That is my biggest problem with Obama, his lack of experience. 143 days in the senate? Preschoolers spend more time preparing for kindergarten! And he never served in the military...I'd feel more comfortable with a Commander-in-Chief that knew how things worked.
IN responce to SuitAndTieGuy, I strongly agree because I believe that McCain has a very good amount of military experience as well as experience in congress. I think that he will make a very good commander in chief because he has gone through a lot of military exposure and I believe that he knows what he is doing.
To start out this comment I would like to say I agree with skeptical on the taxing issues.
Response to diane nash's response to fatherof...
-I dont think it's right to give war money to homeless people. When I went to D.C. in 9th grade I saw my fair share of homeless people smoking cigarettes by the train station. Across the street from a homeless person asking for money was a Burger King with a "Now-Hiring" sign and applications by the door. Now, wasn't that guy and the other homeless people actually working?
- For everyone that doesn't like McCain because he supported George bush. I feel that way with Obama when he supported Jeremiah Wright. Look at Jeremiah's hate quotes on America. George seems like an Angel to Mr. Wright.
-And why we went to war - because 3,000 people were killed by terrorist on 9/11.
I support Obama. I feel that he and Joe Biden have enough experience together to change America for the better. John McCain has played the political game too much. They have both said that they want change for america, but the only thing McCain has done recently is play old politics, and look where that's got us: a war that really has been the reason of a crazy amount of corruption, and a huge addition to the national debt. I feel Obama has the ideals to get the US going in the right direction again.
I agree with maria cosway, i also support the democrats. Obama will put more focus on the middle class, increase the exports of American goods, and strengthen public schools. McCain thinks that we are already on the right track. We are NOT.
Barack Obama will not destroy our economy, he will strengthen it by helping ensure that America can compete in a global economy, and ensure the middle class is thriving and growing.
What about the VP's? They play an important role in the election too. Ive heard a little bit about Biden, but Palin? ohh yeah -- 2nd place in the '84 Miss Alaska pageant --(thanks wikipedia for the last bit)
I support the republicans in this presidential election. I support them because I think that McCain will do a better job with the us economy that Obama will do. I think that if Obama wants to raise taxes he's just going to make the U.S. not want to spend money witch will make the ecomomy fail more. Also, I don't know if Obama will have enough experience to help win the war on terror. I think that Obama might get caught up with the us that he will not worry about terrorist attacks, and we will have something like 9/11 again. I feel that the country is in best hands with John McCain.
I've seen some commerials recently that say obama is trying to use old stratagies and not anything new and i saw some that show mc cain saying he follows all of bushes ideals. I really dont want another bush... at least the mud slinging isn't as bad as the governer election.
I personaly am a person who doesnt choes sides beacuse of my republican/democratic status. but if i was to vote, i would vote for John McCain. If History has taught us it has shown that his ideas have stood the tests of time, his idea of lowering taxes to raise the revinue of the american government is not a new one. FDR had this idea in his "New Deal" speach to end the great depression, and it worked very well.Also John McCain was a P.O.W during the Vietnam war, so he is accustomed to dificultys that obama has not.
In response to maria, I dont think that the republicans "force" their values onto other people, they do strongly object to any other values or ideas but so do other national partys, that doesnt mean that they force there idaes onto another person(s) just beacuse its what they say. Now if they told people that they haad to follow there values and beliefs or elts... then i would agree with you, but they don't.
I agree with maria cosway that Barack Obama will be able to help the economy. He said that he will "modernize and simplify our tax code so it provides greater opportunity and relief to more Americans..." (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/)
Barack Obama also said that he will help with health care problems,"My plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less."
i dont know exactly what your defenition of "force" might be. i tend to put that with jedies and sith. for this terminology, i would say that republicans and democrats do about the same amount of this. but that is part of the election proces, that is, attempting to win others to your side.
but tipicly i think messing around with those, "force" people is a good way to end up appendageless...
Lets not forget that presidental terms last 4 years ... and most of the next 4 will be un-tying the knots that bush made. So if everyone says Obama has no experience --- When will he have enough experience?
i agree with diane nash Obama is willing to raise the taxes of the rich people not the average American house hold. also with his stance on health care and how he is willing to allow gay marriage makes this country what it was meant to be a free country.
In response to bj diesel.
I completely agree. America's gov't needs new blood at the top spot. Lack of experience or not, what we have now is not working at all.
I totally support the Democrats in winning this years election. America needs to see major changes. After almost a decade of Republican President Bush, major businesses have been shut down, unexpected caes of mass layoffs have been issued(for example SNE Enterprises in Mosinee), and the rising of prices on almost everything at the grocery store. America can lose its name as the world's Big Dog if McCain wins this years election.
He said that he will "modernize and simplify our tax code so it provides greater opportunity and relief to more Americans..." (http://www.barackobama.com/issues/)
Barack Obama also said that he will help with health care problems,"My plan begins by covering every American. If you already have health insurance, the only thing that will change for you under this plan is the amount of money you will spend on premiums. That will be less."
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I feel America is getting on the desparate side. We want a savior who can dramatically and drastically change America. I feel we're putting a lot of hope on Obama. We're putting so much faith in him and his good plans that if he shall fail to persue them, America will be left flabbergasted.
flabergasted is a big word. i think we will be flabergasted either way.
i believe john mccain is the best candidate for our country in this time of war. he wants to continue to fight for the liberty of our country as well as others. some say that he is not being sympathetic towards the soldiers of America, however i believe that he knows better than most what you are signing yourself up for when you choose to enlist in the army.
this is a response to redlife. i donot believe that obama supporting gay marraige is a plus i feel their is too much wrong with that it is a really controversial arguement that could lose him the election.
I support Obama. I think he will improve the economy, and I agree with the tax improvements he plans to make.
i have to agree with the one booted dude. his supporting gays isnt gonna do much for him. i mean, who is gonna vote for him because of that. only the gays and Ronald Mcdonald.
when i vaugly said "him" a few times, i was talkin about obama.
by the way dude with a bare foot, use punctuation. i cant tell where your scentances are starting and ending. maby its just my lysdexia but it all scrambles together for me!!
Stephen Colbert '08! I like the sound of that. Like I said before, its Indecision '08! Anyone ever see The Colbert Report w/Stephen Colbert, or the Daily Show w/Jon Stewart? Great shows!
I think for this election i would have to go with the Reublicans. I do not think that any of the two men would be the better of the two for the job. I just think that right now McCain has more experience and is therefore well suited to lead. If Barack Obama gets some more time under his belt at senator then maybe he will be a better choice in the next election.
Yea, and for uh...a response to Diane responding to Jenna...Diane is right. Obama does plan to raise taxes for the wealthy, but I still think that McCain should be elected.
And to redlife...how are republicans "forcing" their values onto others? I think that both are doing that, and I also believe that is how politics works. If you didn't want to force something onto someone, they would force things onto you and we would have a brouhaha of ideals.
Alright, here's how I think it's gonna go down...
1. McCain wins the election...half way through his term, he has a stroke and dies. Palin moves up and serves the rest of his term.
OR....
2. Obama wins the election...half way through his term he gets shot by some white supremacist group(KKK?). Biden moves up and serves the rest of his term.
Sooo, I believe that we are voting for the vp's in this election...and I would rather have Palin than Biden in office.
I agree with cable guy.
that's part of politics and that's how it works. I also think that both the candidates are not the best for the job, but i will still go with McCain.
I like how "The Cable Guy" thinks. I highly agree with him; that neither one is better than the other.
I have to say that I am for Obama. I just feel that we need a change from the Republicans. Not that i have anything against McCain, I just feel we need someone different from Bush. Not that McCain is the same as Bush. I dont think that McCains background in the military really has anything to do with what needs to be done in the country. And I have to agree with Obamas plans for the economy.
Although I am for Obama i think that McCains choice for his vp is a really good one. I think that it is time for a women to be up there in office. And I really do believe this is the most important election however at this point I may be leaning toward Obama I really would be happy with either of them.
I support obama because is for the middle class, and he wants to lower taxes for the poor and middle class and higher it for the rich.
I disagree with carmen electra because you can not pick a president just because he was in the war.
I support Obama. He is ready to bring back the middle class, which is hardly known of in today's society. I agree on his stance of taxation
I support neither candidate, but if I had to choose i would choose Obama. I believe that everything they are say right now won't even happen...McCain is going to lower taxes and Obama is going to raise them...who even believes that McCain will lower taxes? I guess the main issue to me is that we get out of the war that we already spent so much money on. That is why if anyone, I would choose Obama, he will get us out of the war.
I agree with 1234's comment, if Obama says he is going to get our troops home and give tax cuts to working families and raise them for the upper class families...lets get him in office, cause this is what needs to happen with our country...we are spending to much money on the war and it is time that it has stopped.
Obama is the one he is the best MAN for the job. Obama will raise taxes for the rich who got the dough to still stay rich. This will give middle and lower class the reasonable tax cuts. also Obama is planning to take troops out of Iraq which everyone has been waiting to happen. GO OBAMA
I support John McCain in the presidential election. I feel McCain will be a strong leader for our country for many reasons. McCain served in the military therefore he has first hand experience in war, and another big plus is that he wants to keep tax rates low to help with businesses and workers throughout the economy. I believe John McCain will be a strong president for our country.
In response to skeptical I definately agree that Obama's background is a bit sketchy! Maybe what he has gone through has made him stronger through his experiences, but I'm not sure I would want someone who went through the troubles he did while growing up leading the country.
what the heck is all this middle class crap. if people wanted to be in the middle class, they would work their buts off to get there. but do they? NO!! they walk around and dig in trash cans! You guys in suport of obama are basicly saying that you want the president to take the mony from the guys that worked their butts of to get to the position they are in, and then give it to the SLACKERS!!! and you think that this is a GOOD thing?!?!?
Shadow ninja, you have it all wrong. Obama is a better pick because he most likely wont die in office :P and the sooner the war is over the sooner we can use those resources to help US not Iraq. I think the one thing i would give the president womever it may be, is to learn when to drop it and move on and say we tried.
Oh and i'm tired of how people get so out of hand with this. Its a battle of resources and we are loosing, get over it.
In addition to what i said i think a lot of the kids in our school are very narrow minded.
wont die in office, i would have to agree with you there, lol. ya know i see what your saying about the troops and i agree that it is using up resources, and that we need more. but what about all the new programs he wants to make? that to me is just crazy!! i think its gonna plunge our economy. in my opinion, we'd be better off leaving the troops in iraq and cutting programs. if one of the canidates would bring back the troops AND cut programs, IM WITH HIM!!! too bad there isnt one. but hey, mcain will have better forign relationships=)
ya, narowminded. think like their parents. my mom is hardcore republican. heck i just want the best stinkin canadate to win. unlike ronald ragon and bill clinton. AND DEFINATELY NOT HIS WIFE!!!!
As an european I support Barrack Obama because i believe in him and his change-message.
i think McCain will nothing change in Washington. He is a man,who is a hero(vietnam) and he has a lot of experience but you can make mistakes with experience,too. how can he say the iraq war was right and then speak of change? how can Mrs.Palin say: my family is private and 1 minute later: see,my son goes to iray, he is a hero..
i don't say obama is accurate!!
but how can McCain say barrack obama has no experience and then he made sarah palin to his running mate???
WHAT???? HE MADE SARA PALLIN HIS RUNNING MATE???? ok here's the deal people, if mcain is with pallin, IM WITH OBAMAAAAAAAA!!!!!
does anyone know mcain's email?
I just have a video web address about Obama that pretty much speaks for itself. Both supporters and non supporters of Obama should watch this video, it's only 17 seconds. Here's the web address:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1150540,CST-NWS-faith08.article
I found another one that has more of the interview before and after:
http://bokertov.typepad.com/btb/2008/09/obama-says-and.html
I choose not to support either of the candidates.
I strongly support Barack Obama. He's a really good, strong public speaker, and his smile is just so inviting! Besides that, he has a lot of experience, despite the fact that he is not dying age like McCain, and I think he understands the middle class better. Joe Biden has a lot of experience, too. McCain is for the war, which is very, very Bush like (eww!) And what's up with Sarah Palin? She's the inexperienced one. I think she has no idea what she's doing, and we'd be in trouble if she got in. That was a clever move on the Republican's part, though, she'd be the first woman if McCain bit the big one, and she's a big Evangelical. Religion should be kept out of the election. What was the deal with her pitbull and hockey mom joke? Lame. We need a leader, not a war-hardened, Bush supporter and an idot.
~Kitty P.
I strongly support Barack Obama. He's a really good, strong public speaker, and his smile is just so inviting! Besides that, he has a lot of experience, despite the fact that he is not dying age like McCain, and I think he understands the middle class better. Joe Biden has a lot of experience, too. McCain is for the war, which is very, very Bush like (eww!) And what's up with Sarah Palin? She's the inexperienced one. I think she has no idea what she's doing, and we'd be in trouble if she got in. That was a clever move on the Republican's part, though, she'd be the first woman if McCain bit the big one, and she's a big Evangelical. Religion should be kept out of the election. What was the deal with her pitbull and hockey mom joke? Lame. We need a leader, not a war-hardened, Bush supporter and an idot.
~Kitty P.
I do not support Obama at all! He has very little experience. The only experience he has is that he was on a community committee and out 130 times out of 130 times he voted that he didnt know what to vote for. It was either yes, no, or I dont know and he almost always voted that he didnt know. If Obama cant make a decision on little things like that how can he make important decisions when this country is in real peril. The question here is can Obama decide on some type of action when there is tons of presure? I think not!
The reason most people like Obama is because he has a gorgeous smile and he is a great public speaker. Sure,I admit that public speaking is very important in the presidency but it is not all that is needed to run a country. As for his smile, just think if some other country attacked us and all Obama did was smile. THAT IS NO COARSE OF ACTION!!! What does some beautiful smile help this country besides hypnotise you of what is really going on. Obama speaks of change but he never speaks of what kind of change there will be, he only says that there is going to be change. WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN! It means nothing. How can we be sure that the change is not for the worse instead of for the better. Obama will not make a good president if all he can do is smile beautifuly and speak well to a crowd.
Even though Mcain might be older he has the guts and the experience to run a country. He is an amazing leader and Obama will get asassinated as soon as he becomes president. Do you know how many people in this country hate blacks?
If we give up in Iraq then we might as well put down the defences in this country and let all of the Terrorists in and have them blow up this counry!!!!!!
inviting smile, georgous smile, smile, smile, smile. whats with the obama smile? i mean, most prostitutes have inviting smiles!!! now im not saying that obama is a whore, but i dont think that an inviting smile to elect a president. by the way no obama, whats ur source?
What do you mean whats your source?
I just respond to peoples comments when they post them....and I make some comments of my own. Sometimes under different names
I am very convinced that Mcain is the best possible choice, at this point, for presidency. Obama is very inexperienced. If he runs for president in 4 years and he has a lot more experience...then heck, he has my vote, but on the other hand if he is still inexperienced he has no vote... I do admit that he is really handsom and has a beautiful smile but is he the best for president. Think about this country and think about what is best for this country.
ok, this is my view for now:
both cannadates suck, better luck next time.
I just watched the final debate last night between obama and mccain and I must say that mccain got obama a few times. Mccain made some very good points and Obama just sometimes was just gaping. Like the 911 comment. Senator mccain made a good point when they were talking about that. Obama is not telling the entire truth about his involvement with that incident. I am very sure that Obama had a huge part in that. Obama associats with people who would want to harm this country. That in itself is not a very promising president. The truth is that Obama is a Muslim and if he gets assassinated (which he probably will, no offense to obama) then it will cause all kinds of war with us and the muslims and then we will have the next Depression. Ask yourselfs...is that what you want? this country to be in war debt and stock markets crashing everywhere?...I would not want that...would you?
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